The TC grip I used to be referring to was the 'original' that experienced the deep Lower where your hand Website rests, it gave very a Chunk. The 2 TC's I have now would be the later on (larger 'humpback' style) grips that handle recoil significantly better, not an issue while in the thirty-30, 35 Rem. and 375 Get. barrels I have.The two Turkish or